Ep. 39: Patient Interview - Alabama’s Crystal

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This is Beyond the Arches, where full-arch dentistry meets real talk. Let's get into it. Hello, welcome to Beyond the Arches. I'm your host, Dr. Daniel Noorthoek. With us today, we have Erica from our team. Hello, Erica. Hello. We also have Crystal, our patient. Hello. And Jay, her husband. Welcome, guys. Thank you. Thank you for having us on today. All hailing all the way from Alabama. Yes, indeed. Phoenix City. That's amazing. And you just had your 90-day check.

I sure did. So, I hear everything went fine. It went fantastic, yes. Awesome. And tell me, what's been, let's start with some dentistry and then we'll kind of get into personal stuff. So, tell me your biggest frustration with them so far and your greatest enjoyment of them. ▶So, I think the biggest frustration for me was, since I talk a lot, excuse me, just adapting to dentistry. And having them in, because you can tell, you know, that it's not your natural teeth, you know, and you can feel, you know, the, I guess, the gum part of it.

So, there is a little bit of a learning curve, you know, just getting used to that, but it went relatively not as bad as I thought it was going to go. Because at first, I kind of felt like I was, like, over-pronunciating a little too much. But that was probably the worst part of all of this, literally. So, I can tell you from, am I rambling too much? No. Okay, good. So, you know, from getting the procedure done.

That's what a podcast is, it's just rambling. Oh, great then, I'll be great at this then. You know, when I first went and got it done, you know, the first thing on my mind was, oh my gosh, is this too much? Is this too extreme, you know? But honestly, it ended up being the best. I remember we had a few conversations that were around that a little bit. Yeah. What about the greatest, we'll say. The joy that it's brought to your life.

▶The freedom of just not having that anxiety anymore because of the dental issues I did have. I felt that I was walking around with the weight of the world on my shoulders. And I knew that that stress was kind of seeping into my personal life, my professional life. So, now that I'm at the point where I can walk around and smile as big as I want and not be afraid to talk to people and make that contact with them.

Because I'm afraid. I'm afraid of, you know, what they'll see. It's just been the most freeing thing ever. Was your fear or was that holding you back from a what you project out into the world aspect or a comfort aspect? I think both. Both. Yeah, for both. You know, because to a lot of people, you know, I try to come off, you know, having, you know, that confidence and stuff like that. But I really didn't. And so, I was so afraid that people would be able to, like, you know, see through those.

You know, see through those layers and understand that I'm not as confident as I am because I'm hiding this, you know, horrible, deep, dark secret, you know, away from everyone in the world. So. Well, lack of confidence is not something I would ever pin on you. Never. Not once. I think Crystal made our entire office cry when she got her zirconia vinyls. I think that's, you might have been one of the top, like, five patients that I love to see.

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Correct me if I'm wrong. You didn't have a lot of pain after the surgery? I had no pain. Yeah, I remember that. I had no pain. ▶I had no pain at all, which, again, you know, you sit there and you think, okay, I'm getting all of my teeth extracted, you know, and they're going to be sewing up my gums. And you automatically think that, oh, my gosh, this is going to be absolutely terrible. And it wasn't at all.

For sure. It was just, it's still mind-blowing how none of that was even a factor. That's awesome. I remember that. You were coming in and you were very afraid, very nervous, which is normal. And the second day that you came in, you were like, is everything okay? Like, am I alive? Am I here? Are we good now? And I was like, yeah, you're good. Yeah, yeah. Because, you know, it's a huge, it was a very huge decision to make.

And one that I wish that I had made, oh, gosh, I wish I had done this years ago, you know. But at the same time, you know, I've always been a firm believer that, you know, everything happens when it's supposed to. And I went through the place that I was supposed to go through, you know. So everything lined up the way that it was supposed to work out. We actually did a couple of podcasts just recently, and that's what we kind of were discussing.

We were discussing time. And we were discussing that most people, if they have any regret, it's never about the money that it cost. It's always about the time that they didn't get it done earlier. Yeah. And I think a lot of it is, you know, you hear a lot of horror stories out there, you know. And a lot of people are like, you know, wait a minute, you're talking about they're going to extract your teeth and they're going to put these, you know, other ones in.

Like, what are you talking about? So, you know, when you've got a lot of that background noise going on, you know, that's kind of. You know, so I would just tell anyone, you know, do the research yourself, listen to other people who have went through it and don't listen to the naysayers because there's so many success stories. And I'm definitely one of them. It's very easy to talk yourself out of getting a surgery because we all naturally want the excuse to do it.

Yes. Yes. ▶And then, of course, you know, there, you know, you'll look, you'll be like, well, the cost of front, you know, it's so much, you know, that's a lot of money to spend, you know, and it is. Oh, yeah. But at the same time, you know, it truly is an investment in you. And then for people like me who had such, you know, really severe dental issues, the amount of money I would have spent trying to, you know, retain my natural teeth probably would have far exceeded the amount that, you know, I went doing this.

So. And then you still have teeth. Exactly. And then you still have to deal with any other issues that will pop up and whatnot. And that expense is just going to keep growing and growing. So, yeah. Yeah. For me, it was it was a no brainer. And Jay, why don't we go from your side? What was your experience like? What was your side of the coin? You know, from from the jump, you know, she was, you know, of course, she was, you know, anxious about the whole procedure and everything like that.

And we had several conversations, you know, about, you know, much the same as what she mentioned a few minutes ago. You know, like, is it too extreme? Am I going too far with this? Should I wait? And, you know. All of this. ▶And, you know, just finally being in the know with the amount of pain that she was dealing with and the amount that she was having to hold back of herself from the world. I told her I was like, make the appointment.

We'll make it happen. Yeah, it's awesome. And it's to me. What was that time frame from from that discussion to in the chair approximately? Oh, a couple, maybe a couple of months. Yeah, it may have been. Yeah, I think it's about a couple of months because. Research, figuring out what you want. Because I don't even remember how I literally just happened to stumble upon done in one, you know, and I'm researching you guys, you know, of course, I did a little research on YouTube, of course.

You have to. Yes, exactly. And, you know, I was mulling it in my head, you know, then again, just thinking, oh, my gosh, like my teeth gone. Oh, my goodness. Like, how is this? And then the other effect was, what if I'm that one person that this doesn't work for? What if, you know, I have. I have like implant failures and I've spent this money and oh, my goodness. And then finally, it was just like, you know what, girl, just stop.

I think it took you, if I remember correctly, I think it took you like three days to come to grips with the fact that it went fine. Yeah. The first two days you were in denial that there's no way it just went fine. Right. Because I think you were kind of. When you came in, I that's what I think. I think you were like confused. You were like, did I really make it out of that? OK. And I was like, yes, because it's crazy because, you know.

You take the medication and whatnot. ▶And I was sitting there looking like, so this little this pill right here is supposed to make me not feel my teeth getting extracted out of my head. And it really did work because I think I vaguely remember asking or saying something about wanting to keep my teeth. I don't know. I might have imagined that, too. But I'm telling you, like, literally, I don't even remember getting back to the hotel. But that night.

That night, no pain. I didn't even have to touch the stronger pain medication. The bleeding stopped before I even went back for my next appointment. And like, yeah, no pain at all. It was. And right. So, like, I'm sitting in my mind like, wait a minute. Like, shouldn't I feel something? Shouldn't there be anything? But I was like, you know what, girl? Apparently there shouldn't be. So, yeah. Yeah. Let it ride. Exactly. Except good news. Yes. Yes.

Exactly.

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Erica, I know you have a few questions. What were you going to? What would you like to go into next? Yeah. So I have a few questions on my end. And these are kind of a little bit about your experience that you went through, but also just to kind of help some future patients who might be listening and just any advice that you can share for them. So we can maybe just start there. If there's somebody that's kind of looking into this procedure, not quite sure if it would be for them.

Do you have some words of wisdom or encouragement for them kind of moving forward into looking for this process? Like I said before, don't listen to a lot of the outside noise. You know, discuss this with, you know, your partners, you know, a trusted person and make the best decision for you. Not based on, you know, what everyone else has to say. Let the reviews, the results, the work that, you know, this team has done speak for itself.

And I think it does. So I would just tell anyone, you know, listen to your gut, listen to, you know, what everyone else, you know, has said about this experience and, and go for it. Go for it. And then correct me if I'm wrong, but you came down for your surgery alone, right? Yes, I did. Okay. So how was that kind of being alone? ▶It was, I was scared at first. But honestly, I don't think this is wrong, baby, because I love you so much.

I'm glad I did it alone though. Just because. You brought Jay in for the victory lap. Yes, we did. And he came down the weekend before I got the finals put in, you know, so he was able to see, you know, like. Like how the process was going and whatnot. But it's something I'm glad I did alone though, because I think that ultimately helped me with the overall self-esteem, you know, going and doing this and getting it done on my own and, you know, taking care of myself.

Like I, I think I needed all of that to, for my experience. So. How long was it before you felt like normal again? Like how long was, how long was your. Right? I was about to say. They, um, they put the first, uh, set attempts in and I mean, aside from, you know, the swelling with the gums, other than that, I, I literally felt no different. The biggest thing was, was honestly just letting my guard down and being like, girl, you can smile.

You can smile as big as you want. ▶You don't have to, you know, cause I had to modify the way that I spoke, that I smiled. I interacted with people and all that went away. I was like, I would go out. I was talking to everybody. I made friends everywhere. I went the gas station, the Publix, Target. Like I was talking to every buddy that would listen to me. I loved it. So Jay, has she gotten too, uh, emboldened by this?

Oh, no, no, not at all. The way I see it, she's, she's finally just back to the person that she was when I met her. When, you know, before the dental, the dental issues became as severe as they were, she felt like she had to hide them. Yeah. So she's back to being the woman that I fell in love with. That's awesome. And it's so great to look back, you know, to, to see the pictures we take now.

I'm smiling, you know, my mouth is open. And to me, that's just that alone is just the greatest feeling in the world. Where did the dental problems start? Can you narrow it to anything? Like what was it? Lack of care or, um, well, so we're going to be completely honest, right? Okay. Um, I was in a, uh, a pretty. Um, bad relationship, um, wasn't physically abusive, but there was, um, definitely like a psychological and verbal abuse from him.

Um, I had a feeling fall out. This was back in 2016, no, 2017, 2018, a feeling fell out. Um, he would not let me go to, um, the VA hospital, uh, to get it checked out because it was over an hour away from where we lived. And. Yeah. He was very. Trolling and I wasn't allowed to do anything like that. Um, so there was a lot of suffering, um, in silence with that. Um, and then eventually it just led to a snowball effect where, um, you know, it got obviously infected, uh, that tooth ended up breaking, falling out.

Um, and then it was just a cascade effect, um, how it affected all of my other teeth. And it was just, you know, being in that situation and then watching what was happening to me physically, you know? Um, and I'm sure the stress that I was going through was just adding on to that. So, um, that's where it started. Um, that's where I can pinpoint, um, you know, the first sign of, um, of, of dental issues

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that I was having. So let's, let's move on into that. So let's move it more into the, your, your work and your passion. So you work for, you were saying a nonprofit. Yes. I work for a hope Harbor. Um, we're stationed in Columbus, Georgia. We are one of the very few, uh, domestic violence shelters. That service is two States. Um, I work in Russell County, Alabama as a legal advocate, um, helping survivors, uh, file, uh, protection from abuse orders, um, helping them navigate the judicial system.

Um, and absolutely love everything that I do. I'm sure you're pretty busy. Unfortunately, unfortunately. Yes. I have one of those jobs where it's like, you know what, if I was to wake up tomorrow and domestic violence was gone, I would be the happiest unemployed person in the world. So absolutely. Yeah. So how long has that, was that, I would imagine that was something that's just been a journey since that relationship that you were talking about till now.

Yeah. Yeah. Um, cause I'm, I ended up leaving that situation in 2021. Um, you know, moved over to good old Phoenix city, Alabama. Um, and then we ended up meeting, um, about what, seven, eight months after I got there, something like that. Yeah. Um, and then it's just steadily, uh, you know, the issues, they just kept coming, you know, like here and there, um, and I would try to go, uh, you know, make an appointment, um, cause as a medically retired veteran, I do get a free dental care, which was a nightmare.

I remember, um, they scheduled me to go in to see a dentist and I literally left out of there in tears because they made me feel so terrible. Like I, you know, like I was just this disgusting, dirty person because of my dental health, you know? Um. Um, and honestly that kind of turned me off. And so again, the suffering and silence and whatnot, because, you know, when you go into a place like that and you're there for help, you know, you're there because like, Hey, I need you to help me.

And that person's looking at you like, wow, I'm just going to sit here and judge the, you know, the world out of you because of how your, your oral health looks. ▶Um, so it was really disheartening in all of that. So that's something that I've never been able to understand about. Um, when you hear those stories. Yeah. Yeah. About a dentist, you know, or somebody in the dental profession, hygienists, whoever it be judging a person in the chair, like know what you're there for.

That's like you judging somebody that came to you for help. Like it's, it is what it is, you know, that there's a million reasons like for you kind of out of your control was a bad scenario ends up there. Could be bad diet. It could be the person's fault. Right. But what does it matter? Exactly. At the end of the day, none of that even matters. It's the fact that, you know, you've got someone there who was there for, you know, your help, your services don't make them feel like, you know, they're like the scum of the earth.

So I ran out of there crying and I was like, yep, I'm not going back. And I'm just, I don't know, I'll figure this out. I'll deal with it in some way, shape or form. Um, until the point where it was like, this is not viable anymore. I can't continue to live like this, you know, because when you're living, you know, with this secret, I told no one how bad it was. He did not even know how bad it was.

It was until the day before I came down here. I finally showed him. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. That's how well I hid this from everyone. My children, um, coworkers, everybody, nobody knew. Did you, you had like a temporary that was temporarily glued in or I can't remember. No. Um, there was a bridge. Nope. No. Um, I had, it was all of my, um, well the, my remaining teeth, but the way I modified my way to, um, to speak, you know, and laugh or do anything.

Um, cause I had the four teeth missing, um, total missing on the bottom and then, um, one up here on the side. And then this one over here was cracked too.

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So yeah, you can imagine like basically like literally talking like this out of your mouth. Yeah. But that's how it was, you know? Um, and I can't imagine you speaking like that. Yeah. Me neither. You know, it's been three months since I've had these in and I'm sitting there like, how did you manage? How were you? What were you doing? Because it's like, that's. It was only three months ago, but it feels like a lifetime ago now, you know, it's like, I can't even imagine being that girl, you know, like, oh my goodness, everyone's going to see, they're going to notice.

And I'm like, what? Yeah. And just for anybody who's listening and not actually watching like a video of us talking right now, Crystal literally has like the most beautiful smile. They are perfectly so white and pristine and they just go so amazing with your personality. Well, I tell you what, you know, the way, um, you know, that the. The staff will sit there, you know, and work with you for the aesthetic, the feel, the color, everything, you know, they really take their time, you know, because you can go some places and you can kind of tell that someone's like, okay, what do you want to do?

All right. Well, you know, th th this looks fine. No, no, no, no, no. Like you could sit there and be like, well, I'm not sure about that. Well, okay. You know? And you guys never made, you guys don't make people feel like they're rushed or, you know, like, um, they're being overly picky or anything like that. Because you guys understand. You know, like this is your smile and your smile, you know, like your eyes to me is, you know, you're the window, you know, to your soul and stuff like that.

So you guys really took the time, you know, to make sure that, you know, the aesthetic, everything, you know, when I walked out that door for the final time after, um, at that initial visit that I was happy. I'm kind of like blown away right now because of I'm swear to you, I was just thinking of a story before you said that. So years ago we were filming. Uh, a commercial and his, this patient's name was Reggie and Reggie came up with on his own line.

It was just sort of a natural thing. ▶We were shooting a bunch of stuff. He said, um, people always tell me, or my mom used to tell me that a smile is the welcome mat to the soul. Yeah. Um, which always was really good. Yeah. And then you just hit that like, wow. Yeah. That's one of the commercials. I was just thinking of the story before you said that. Yeah. That plays in our meeting room every day.

I was going to close this with that. Yeah. Now I need to think of another close. My bad. I'll try to inspire you with something else. But I mean, it's true because you know, one of the first things, you know, people look at you is, is your mouth, you know? So that's why, like, I was kind of like, wait a minute, nobody knew like, wow, like I always figured people knew, but they were just being really polite and not saying anything to me, but everyone was literally like, no, we, we didn't know.

And I'm like, oh my God. And that's, that ties into, we're constantly encouraging patients to come. And saying like, look, we don't care what the story is and what the backstory is. And you're going to be the biggest critic. You know, you, you, that may not, that, that feeling may have even parlayed into delaying the treatment just because you were embarrassed to talk to a dental professional. But when people, when everyone else doesn't even know you're going to be the one that's the most critical.

So getting people out of that shell and getting people into the mode of, I can jump out and be vulnerable and people aren't going to think what I think they're going to assume. About me. Um, is a big, and that's been a big push for us is creating a, uh, an environment that at least caters to opening a person up a little bit to that. Right. And I tell you that is, um, that's one of the, the best things, um, that you guys could ever do for people is to sit there and, you know, give them that experience that makes them feel like, okay, like, you know, this is about you and we're here for you and whatnot and understanding, you know, like, yeah, it does take a lot, you know?

Because again, when people associate oral health, you know, they automatically, you know, just go towards the, unfortunately the more judgmental side of it and whatnot. So, you know, to, to sit there in front of, you know, dental professionals and whatnot who are sitting there like, Hey, you know, our goal right now is to get you a treatment plan is to get you, you know, to do what we have to do to get you where you want to be and working together like that, like that is just literally just been about the best thing ever that I can say about, you know, this.

This whole experience is that the, the, the time, the care, the patients you guys put in is just, wow. And it really takes away a lot of like those nerves and that, you know, that, that question in the back of your head, am I doing the right thing? Because then you see that, Hey, like there's this whole team of people that is here, you know, to, to help you like, yeah, it really makes you feel like, okay, I mean, I have some control here, but you know, at the same time, um, I know I'm in good hands and I'm in a safe place.

Which is really good, you know, established, establishing that for people because, you know, you got to figure kind of like, you know, with my job, people don't ever want to come see me. I'm the last person they want to meet, you know, we have similar jobs. Exactly. No one ever wants to have to walk in there and then to show, you know, you know, years of damage and decay. And yeah, it's a lot. Like I remember, um, when I first walked in there, I was so scared to open my mouth, you know, and just the way that the entire staff was like, it's okay.

You're, you're fine. Yeah. And I was like, all right, I can let that guard down now. It's one of those rolling or, you know, snowball effects because it is also self-serving to be, to have a system that's, uh, that's very like resolute and very, um, programmable and very like, uh, reliable because that allows us to transfer that energy to you. But then all of us, maybe there might be a, an employee or two that would disagree, but all of us sleep well at night.

Mm-hmm. Which means that the next day we show up rested and ready for the next one. And it just, it's self-serving, right? It just both feed into each other. It's cyclical.

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And the great part is, is that like you treat everyone like individuals, you know, it's not like this, uh, this place where it feels like we're like institutionalized care and stuff like that, you know, like, no, you guys like, you know, actually pay attention to the people, you know, you got to figure all the people you guys have seen and you guys are remembering things from me from three months ago. You'd be surprised how many businesses do not.

Do that, you know? So people don't feel that connection and people need connections. They do. It's just part of the human experience. So when you find a place like this with that human connection, it's like, this is it. This, I know I'm in great hands over here. And that's one of the intentions of doing this podcast is to get patients like yourself on because your unique story, your history, your reason for being here might align and strike a chord with somebody.

Oh yeah. You know, it. You. You also may be interested in the lady that's the snake wrestler and the, you know, the, there's a, we had a Angela who's a cook and the chef. So, uh, that's what we like to, to sort of highlight on this is there are people behind these teeth. There's nothing, it really doesn't have a lot to do with teeth. Yeah. It has to do with relationship and service and getting you back to that restored person that you believe you are on the inside.

Yes. I agree with that. I agree with that a hundred percent. How did you feel walking into our office today? Today you officially got declared for your implant integration. You got the green light. Everything was good to go. So how did you feel going into that? Were you, were you a little nervous or you're a little excited? I was a little nervous. Um, just because, you know, like I was like, oh gosh, what if I don't get the clearance or like, what if something went bad?

Because, you know, that goes back to the initial fears that I had, like, oh my goodness. Like, you know, what if, you know, I I'm like the implant failure person, you know, and like all of these just don't work, you know? So, you know, I was like, oh my goodness. I was a little nervous on that. Um, but once, you know, getting that green light, oh my gosh, again, what a great feeling. And literally it was like walking, like I, like it hasn't even been three months when I walked through that door, you know, and the, you guys are sitting there and it's like, it's been three months.

What? Like, I felt like I just saw you guys, but you walk into a place where again, you know, you have that personable connection and it's just like, I don't know, you can't help but not feel nervous at that point in time. Cause you're like, you know, Hey, I know I'm here with these people who truly care. Care about me, you know, not just, they don't see me as just, you know, another, you know, token of business or something like that.

Like these people like truly like, you know, have cared about me this entire time. And like, even, um, over the past three months, you know, uh, you get the occasional text, you know, like the check-ins, you know, to see if everything's going great. Like that right there, you know, it really does something, you know, for a person, especially when you've been on the fence and then you finally go through with this. It's like, wow. You know, like we are in this together.

Absolutely. And it makes you feel good. Good. So you're not allowed to leave here without us asking the question we ask everyone. What did you survive on? What was your go-to? How did you make it through? How did it go? And then what are you eating tonight? Um, so let's see. I will tell you what the first, uh, like that first week I was down here. Um, I think every, every taco bell in the area like knew me.

And as soon as they saw me, they're like, yeah, how many pintos and cheese orders do you want? This time? Um, it was a lot of living on that, uh, mashed potatoes, applesauce, yogurt, uh, cream of wheat, um, grits kind of, well, you know, I'm in the deep South, so I got to have my grits. Um, but the bad part is like, um, like the little, like gritty parts can get kind of stuck, but, um, that water pick took it right away.

So, um, yeah, it was a lot of things like, like, like that. Um, good thing is in the South, uh, you know, they like to make a lot of soft food. So that was the good part. Um, I'm.

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I'm not going to lie. Dr. Dan, please don't get like, did you cheat? I did. Oh my God. I'm shocked. It's okay. I do not recommend that for everybody have more self-control than I did. When you, did you know that she cheated? Yeah. And she felt really bad about it, but she, she held out for a solid two months cheating at all. That's really good. It was Christmas probably like close to Christmas. Yeah. And it was, it was wings.

But yeah, she, like, she, you don't have to tell on yourself. I can't help it maybe a handful of times, but you know, she was really confident, you know, she hadn't had any problems at, at all whatsoever. Yeah. So I was, I was careful about it. Um, and again, everyone, please have more self-control, more self-control than me. That's the big statement is. Look, you can eat whatever you want. You know, it's just, you have to eat it in a way that doesn't overstress the teeth.

Right. Right. I don't care. I don't care. Some people, the way some people make a steak, you can't have that at all. The way others make a steak, have as much of it as you want. Yeah. So you have to use your brain and, and decide what's going to be okay to cheat and what's not. Yeah. Yeah. So there's a couple of cheat days and stuff like that, but, um, I can't make up my mind what I want.

I was over here, you know, thinking about the German restaurant that's over here, but now I'm like, Oh my gosh, I don't know. Well, initially you said pierogies, you saw a pierogi place that you really wanted to try. And I said, girl, you could have had that 90 days ago. Had I done some research, I would have known that they were not like hard and stuff like that. And I could have had that now. Trust me. I'm kicking myself for that.

Cause I'm like, bless you taco bell. But those pintos and cheese got really old by like day three. I'm sitting there like, here we go. Let's solve this. What are you in the mood for? What kind of foods do you guys like? We're going to give you, we're going to leave here with an answer. You know what? Pizza. Because pizza is one of your favorites and he did so good in solidarity with me. You know? You know, like sticking with, you know, helping me stick to the diet and stuff like that.

So you know what? You are the MVP here, my dear. We are going to find something fantastic. Jay ends up a winner. He really did. You know, like he had my back throughout the whole thing, which is really great if you do have that type of, you know, um, support and stuff like that. So what kind of pizza do you guys like? Um, what's your style? I'm good with pretty much any kind of pizza, but my goats.

Real oven, New York. Where are you guys live? New York. I like brick oven pizza. Okay. Well, it's a little bit of a chain, but there's a place called Anthony's. It's on Atlantic Avenue, uh, just after, just off of Atlantic Avenue. There's tons of bars down there that I can give you recommendations on, but their pizza is really good. Perfect. So, and they have wings and you don't have to feel bad about it. There we go. Bet.

Their wings are worth trying. They're grilled, uh, in the oven and they've got like a lot of like grilled onions and stuff with them. They're very unique. They're not your typical pizza. They're not your typical wings, but they're definitely worth, worth a try. Can the sound guy edit out the sound of a stomach growling? Cause I can, I'm not going to lie, like I'm over here.

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And I really feel like I got such a huge part of me back that I can in turn, you know, put back out there for the world, you know, give back to my clients, you know, make sure that I'm being the best advocate that I can be. And I'm telling you, having this confidence restored, I think that's gonna, um, help elevate me. Not just professionally, but personally, everything. So thank you guys for everything that you did. Absolutely.

I can say very genuinely, I've done 6,000 of these cases. It takes a lot for me to feel like, yeah, I really love what I do because it's rewarding because I've given somebody something back. And from the minute you walked in and the minute your first try in and today you, you are a very easy person to restore my confidence and get that feeling. So I appreciate you in that way. Okay. So, um, thanks everyone for watching and listening.

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